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« on: May 28, 2012, 07:30:17 PM »

Hi All,

Starting another project, Dads first bike, 1972 TS185.

He sold it to my uncle in 75 when he got the Kawasaki F11, now F11 is complete i chatted to my uncle and he let me have dads orig bike.

F11 pre and post (Feb 2011 - Feb 2012 approx)





1972 Suzuki TS185J

Basically all orig except for different rear tail light (from a diff year i think) as dad went a bit too far with a mono once Smiley.

Had not been started in 12 years, put some oil down spark plug hole, checked gearbox oil, some fuel in, second kick on choke and it started for a few seconds, then afew kicks later and it ran, so atleast now i know it went before pulled apart.  Only slight concerning bit i swear it was normal oil not 2 stroke oil in CCI reservoir  :unsure:

Only actual damage is top triple tree right side cracked so need new top triple tree.  Needs the usual other stuff, new levers, cables etc.  Carby was crazy clean when apart. Exhaust fingers crossed looks like it has no pin holes at all

pulled apart bits to bring back to melbourne from mildura, uncle will bring rest of bike in July, grabbed all the staff i can rebuild, clean and polish.

At moment my plan is to strip all unnecessary items off chuck them in a box for incase ever want to restore to stock, and setup for Vinduro use, thinking 1973 rear guard as straight and flat, aftermarket plastic front guard, alternate rear shocks (honda XL 185 or something (bit more height) rebuild stock front shocks (come stock with 3 way front adjustment).

rear wheel 18" front is 19", will chuck on some nice knobbys

Anyone know of other triple tree fork setups that fit 1972 TS185 ?

was thinking seeing top triple tree broken should i update to some other triples, forks and front tyre bringing up to 21" rim etc....would cost a little though i think and looking at budget build so this may be a later option.

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Dad in 1972


May 2012

















Whats left for uncle to drop to Melbourne in July
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 08:28:48 PM »

bit of work ahead of there cob
sorry i cant help with the tripletee
keep an eye out on evilbay or gumtree

keep the pics coming

cheers
wayne
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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2012, 11:42:24 PM »

Another great story combining family and motorbikes. I look forward to following this one too.

It'd be great if you could get the TS into action as a vinduro bike. We would love to see more machines from the 1970s...

As for the front end, maybe the front from a TS185ER might fit? (Any Suzuki experts able to confirm/deny this theory?)

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« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 12:38:08 AM »

wow cracked triple  Shocked


I use to use Bikebandit.com to cross reference factory part#'s to see what interchanged
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« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2012, 08:54:27 AM »

Hi Tex,

cheers mate, have found a website that outlines fork sizes etc

http://scandalon.com/2009/06/motorcycle-fork-diameter-chart/

there are a fair few suzukis / other bikes with the 30mm forks, cracked triple isnt too much of a concern, will leave that till later i think as i have a lot of other things to clean and polish / replace before i have to worry about putting things back together.

Think ill stick with the stock front end setup unless something pops up cheap thats a direct swapover etc.

Bike will be setup for vinduro's all stock parts stored at home incase ever want to go back to stock, not cutting or altering frame or anything like that.

Main thing i want is plastic guards, increase rear height a little with some other rear shocks, sort out front end / rebuild stock forks and make / find a fork brace


Cheers Jeff, yeah bike bandit is good for sussing that stuff out.


cheers

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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2012, 08:33:46 PM »

Quick update

tank was clean as inside, which was good, outside has done dings and scratches, also rear near seat looks like petrol stain as if leaking at some point, will see how it goes once on, if leaking will fix / get another tank.  Cleaned and polished / waxed tank, like the look of the aged tank though shiny n waxed. polished up cap.

started pulling carby apart, so clean every jet perfectly clean, so surprised as never opened in 40 years, needle perfect etc.

also bought:
New cap for oil tank, did have an old milk cap on it
New chain buffer
1985 TS185 rear shocks, they are exactly the same as the ones i used on the kawasaki F11 resto, though the ones i bought for F11 were sold as KL250 shocks, either they were sold with wrong identity or KL250 and TS185 had same shocks at one point ?, either way happy as cheap and good upgrade from stock, firmer, stronger and longer











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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 10:12:21 AM »

Some more expenditure this morning.

Bit the bullet and grapped some MX VINTAGE OEM HONDA BEND 7/8" bars, will see how they go, if anything i may need some 1-2 inch risers as lower than stock bars.

Also grabbed a headlight,chromed steel, smaller trials style, comes as 12V so globe change back to 6V as cant be bothered converting bike to 12V and its really only there for purpose of gaining club reg / rec reg.  Still not sure which reg type i will aim for. At the moment im thinking Rec reg so that i can reduce excess controls, wiring and ancillaries like indicators and really only run a kill switch and a converted hi/lo beam switch positioned elsewhere, can even ditch the horn and run a bicycle style horn/bell Wink - ofcourse brake light required etc


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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 08:57:45 PM »

well on your way there cob!
like the light Cool

cheers
wayne
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2012, 08:40:26 AM »




Where did you get this cap from please, I have four Suzi's here in need of some new love!




Cheers,
Chris,
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 08:50:34 PM »

ebay - US, ithink the cap is from, also got the chain buffer off same ebay seller.

i just always search TS185, then go from lowest to highest price etc and trawl the pages till i get sick of it, adding anything i think i might need  to my watch list ......do this a few times a week etc
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2012, 11:51:59 AM »

Here's a pic to inspire you, of someone enjoying one of these, back in the day...



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[Pic from Suzuki Cycles website]
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 06:58:17 PM »



Quick Update.

Have ordered some more parts from Ebay, after looking at complete bikes for parts bikes, not many around VIC and prices get too high and logistics of picking up etc, and also looking at a few nice completed bikes i have decided its more fun to source the parts and build bike myself.

recently got

NOS sprocket washer set
TS 250 savage foot pegs, appear as if should fit from part numbers
Rear TS plastic fender
Front TS plastic fender
Top yolk, bottom yolk and steering stem (my top yoke one side cracked)
Wiring Harness.
Grips

Everything except the grips and sprocket washers were off one guy in US, let me buy it all them he did a total for postage combining all which was great, postage came to $70 which i was happy with as individually each item had around $25 postage on them.

Best purchase so far was the triples and steering stem $47 incl postage from US, on ebay AUS ppl want $40 + just for top triple.

Will prob get some 7/8" 30mm risers for handlebars as new ones are only 70m high as opposed to 100m Or just some higher enduro bars

My uncle who gave me the bike came down from Mildura for a holiday and bought down the bike.

He and my other uncle bob ( one who recovered kawasaki seat n will do same with Suzuki) came for a drive out to Doreen from Richmond to drop it off.....I shouted them breakfast out for their troubles Smiley.

Put together a small table I found in the rubbish area at work ( our office is in a residential complex in hawthorn east, sounds racist, but I'm not, seems majority of residents are Asians and they have a massive throwaway mentality, apparently in Asian culture second hand is seen as bad and poor etc). So I scored the table, strapped on my garage crawler added an old cutlery drying container & pegboard container and I now have a nice mobile bench, wheel away when pull car back into garage.

Started removing bits and pieces and moved the kawasaki outside Sad not enough space to both in garage, once Suzuki built might be ok but during building need more space.  Rigged up a tarp and bought a motorbike cover, works well as had rain straight after finished, cover hardly gets wet thanks to tarps.

My parts from america should arrive very soon. Happy I have the entire bike at home now

Also happy to now have my twincam on club reg, nice n cheap now, this car will be used as tow car for getting to vinduros.....eventually.





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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 11:19:18 PM »

Not much can beat rebuilding the bike you want, to then enjoy it and having done it by yourself.

Good idea to run a fan under the bike cover after wet conditions, condensation can do as much damage as the open weather.....a WD40 wet down also helps.



Cheers,
Chris.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2012, 08:52:59 AM »

cheers for the tip mate, plan is to remove cover and start bike weekly as minimum, nice that we are atleast a decent way through winter.

good idea re. wd40 wed down etc.

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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2012, 07:55:23 PM »

Quick update.

Sideburn mag issue 11 arrived Smiley and also my bulk parcel from eBay, from USA.

To my surprise the guards are Preston Petty Smiley couldn't tell from pics in for sale and were sold as TS185 1972 model, I figured might be 73/74 model plastic ones so to be Preston petty I'm very happy, a few scuffs, a few drill holes and in need of light sand, paint etc but very happy.

The foot pegs appear to be a direct bolt in which is great too, bought them hoping would fit, wasn't sure.  Triples and steering stem looks great, wiring harness I haven't bothered unwrapping yet, I just added that to purchase as a backup so I can remove what I don't need and be able to take back to stock road version one day if want.






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